On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, David Silberstein wrote: > On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, M J wrote: > >I could swear that I saw at some point a reference to Noima having > >been delivered of a child. It's a throwaway line of Paarfi's > > [snippitry] > > >Could this child have been Loudin? While it's like Paarfi to say > >something so potentially important and then never mention it again > >because he's caught sight of something even shinier a few hours > >later, this was PRETTY COOL even for a throwaway. > > > >And now I can't find it, even though I'm sure it was in FHYA > >_somewhere_. > > > > Booksearch rocks, baby! The name "Noima" occurs only a few times > in FHYA, and in Chapter 6, Page 73 we find: > > It is certainly the case that, on some occasions, her Majesty > the Consort, Noima, would accompany his Majesty into his > bedchamber, and it is also the case that it is only Khaavren > who knew how often this was done. Yet this is one subject upon > which the Tiassa has never breathed a word, and so we are left > to engage in unseemly speculation, or not. The fact that the > Consort was delivered of a child must be held sufficient to > our purposes. Can someone remind me how long K had been in a position to observe the Consort's sleeping habits? If Sean Whalen's theory about the White Goblets Affair makes sense, then the child in question presumably postdates the (circa) 100th year of T's reign, which would make the child about 400 by _FHYA_, old enough to bear a child herself and be the financial rep of House Phoenix. So that's possible, I guess. It would however be rather weird for all concerned to not refer to L as T's daughter, though she _is_ a princess, and for no one to mention Z's bloodline claim on the throne, esp. during the events of _TLoCB_ and subsequent. I can almost hear Paarfi writing, "This is the one subject the Tiassa never spoke of", and dropping the "the" as too catty.