Dragaera

Duplicates

David Dyer-Bennet dd-b at dd-b.net
Wed Jul 21 14:09:23 PDT 2004

"Scott Schultz" <scott at cjhunter.com> writes:

>> I assure you that I've spent a really quite remarkable 
>> percentage of my life recently examining the qmail logs, and 
>> then the things that write them.  
>
> I'm a sendmail guy myself, so I can't offer any insight. However, the thing
> I always tell my kids when they've lost something is "If you can't find it
> in the places where it's supposed to be, look in the places where it's NOT
> supposed to be." 
>
> In this case, if we accept the proposition that nothing has changed in qmail
> then we have to look for changes outside of qmail. 
>
> Does qmail feed into procmail the way sendmail does or is it a delivery
> agent like procmail? Is there any chance that something is feeding into one
> or more accounts that are, in turn,  feeding into procmail (say, to read
> some anti-spam rules) which is then feeding back into qmail for the final
> delivery and causing a loop? Maybe some changes to the global procmailrc
> file? 
>
> I don't know if this helps things or obfuscates them further, but I've
> noticed that I periodically seem to be missing posts as well as getting
> duplicates. It's one of the things that makes me wonder about a spam filter
> gone amuck. (I'd also suspect a problem with someone's .forward file.)

No procmail, no spam filter on the path to list distribution.  (I
think spam filtering belongs at the end of the chain primarily; the
subscriber-only posting rule, enforced by ezmlm itself, keeps most
spam out of the list anyway.)

> Anyway, best of luck with the investigation. It sucks having to debug a
> system with almost no solid clues about where the problem lies.

Thanks.
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