Hi, I posted something similar on the yahoo group in July. I was reminded to post it here when I saw a cicada this morning. Seventeen Houses. Seventeen Great Weapons. Seventeen chapters in books. Etc. Etc. Sometime after reading the cracksandshards.com section on The Mystical Number Seventeen, I heard on the radio that the cicada will be emerging in 2004. The seventeen year cycle cicada. A quick search came up with this website: http://insects.ummz.lsa.umich.edu/fauna/michigan_cicadas/Periodical It says there are thirteen and seventeen year cycle cicadas. Genus: Magicicada Cool. Seventeen a Magic number on Earth too. Agyar Orb edition page 156 "Numerology on the other hand, is a proven fact. That was a joke, Jim." Bye. Linda G.