----Original Message Follows---- From: FRIEDA2133 at aol.com To: dragaera at dragaera.info CC: cparkes at actewagl.net.au, Log0n5150 at hotmail.com Subject: Re: Bows and arrows Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 13:37:58 EST From: Dave Godwin wrote on Wed, 17 Nov 2004 18:48:31 -0800 >I took them to be atlatls: >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlatl Hi, I do not think we actually see any bows and arrows being *used* in the Phoenix Guards. Also specific question below for Carl and Jeff. >From the same website http://www.nps.gov/amis/eatlatl.htm Looks pretty much like the description in Dragon except where is the string and the green bendable wood. Dragon Chapter 15 paperback page 249 "Javelin shooters" Vlad thinking: "One of the javelins had fallen about two feet from my hand, and was sticking out of the ground, it was much smaller than the ones we were throwing, and had feathers near the back, and at the very end, the wood had a small notch." "Take a length of green, bendable wood", said Virt. "Put a string to it, and you can use it to shoot those things a long distance. Longer, even uphill, than we can throw our javelins downhill." Carl Parkes on Fri, 19 Nov 2004 14:23:29 +1100 under Subject: re Bows and sorcery thinks they are wommarra. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlatl mentions Australian woomera which it says is like the atlatl. Carl, spelling difference or something else? Jeff G. wrote on Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:56:06 -0700 under Subject: atlatls (was Bows and arrows) >You can see these in use by Australian Aborigines in the Tom Selleck >movie "Quigley Down Under", Jeff, could you tell in the movie if there was string involved? Bye. Linda G. Nope. Atlatls basically add power to the throw by increasing the leverage applied by the wrist on release. Jeff