Hi, Hmmm, maybe an anti-arrow spell had been modified to work on javelins and the "much smaller" javelins from "javelin shooters". Seems to me an arrow would be a twig when being compared to a javelin and not just "much smaller". More from Dragon chapter 15 page 249-250 paperback: This involves the "javelin shooters" "Drummer! Beat 'Kiss the Ground." ... "Virt, and everyone else, was busy lying on the ground." ... "a mass of javelins flew over our heads, save for a few that landed, point first, in the ground near us. Down the line someone began cursing, very creatively in a low, even, conversational tone of voice." ... "Crown walked in front of us, about ten feet down the hill, appearing utterly unconcerned by the javelins falling around him." Okay, he was a Dragon. But maybe Kiss the Ground is not just a message for everyone to get down. Maybe it is a message to everyone who knows the Kiss the Ground spell that makes falling objects hit the dirt instead of people. No one seems to have been hit. Dragon Chapter 14 pages 227-229 Vlad's unit is "attacking uphill" against javelins. ... The Captain says: "we will have additional support from the sorcerors corps, especially defensive. If we keep our lines dressed and strick quickly. I do not anticipate any difficulty." ... "they launched their javelins at us."..."single, vast sheet of metal" The first barrage, Vlad is distracted "from noticing what effect, if any, the javelins had had on our forces. Then they launched a second barrage, and this time I noticed: Virt stumbled and went down"...third barrage of javelins, which did some damage, to judge by the screams around me, and then a fourth, during which one went screaming past my ear and made Loiosh yelp phychically, and then we met the enemy." Okay, they were getting closer with each barrage, but maybe the sorcerors corps were getting more and more tired and the defensive spells weaker and weaker. Maybe a defensive spell that would have worked totally against arrows and the "much smaller javelins" would have had trouble with the heavier, full-size javelins. Note that in Chapter 10, page 157-158, Vlad's unit in Morrolan's army does not have shields. Fornia's army has shields. Okay, maybe it is because Vlad's unit was light infantry. Or maybe it is because Sethra likes to fight a defensive war and shields are not needed if you have a good sorcerors corps. Bye. Linda G.