Dragaera

Whip me, Daddy (was Re: Conditioning)

Wed Feb 16 10:02:42 PST 2005

--- Paul Echeverri <gomi at pollywog.com> wrote:

> John Klein wrote:
> 
> >On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Charmian wrote:
> >
> >@> But this makes it in some ways less interesting, because IRL s/m is
> >@> generally understood as a psychological trait/taste preference,
> rather
> >@> than a biological thing.
> >
> >You know, I think most of the BDSM enthusiasts I know would disagree
> with
> >you. Although, honestly, it's difficult or perhaps even impossible to
> >disentagle genetic predisposition from behavioral conditioning anyway.
> >  
> >
> With respect, most BDSM enthusiasts are not credible sources of 
> information about the psychology of their enthusiasms. There is a 
> significant membership overlap between Usenet sexual abuse recovery 
> newsgroups and BDSM newsgroups. This overlap is either never discussed 
> or its interest hotly denied, sometimes to the point of absurdity -- I 
> recall at least one claim that the poster's abuse had *nothing to do* 
> with their BDSM interests, while discussing a 'scene' that closely 
> replicated the circumstances of the abuse as described in the recovery 
> newsgroup.

Also, speaking of sf, Samuel Delany said in one of his essays that
the causes of S&M are pretty well understood, and many sadists and
masochists had a clear idea of how they got that way.  So somebody's
wrong here (but it could be Delany).

Jerry Friedman


	
		
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