Dragaera

evolution in languege: OT

Tue May 10 04:22:18 PDT 2005

Howard Brazee wrote:

> Lots of people were upset with Kevin Costner's accent - they probably 
> would have been quite happy with most modern English or even Tasmanian 
> accents.   I lived a couple of years on the East side of the 
> Chesapeake - where are these islanders?     I've also read that some 
> barrier reef residents have older accents than most residents of 
> England.   Which doesn't make them closer to various Robin Hood 
> stories - but makes them candidates.    If you wanted to be as 
> accurate as you can, where would you look for Robin Hood accents?
>
Smith & Tangiers?  Right about where the Potomac empties into the Bay, a 
little south and to the east.  Near Crisfield, on the Eastern shore.  I 
think there are others, but those are the two I remember reading about & 
seeing on PBS shows.  As for Robin Hood, if you check medieval sources, 
you'll find a dozen or more "Robin Hoods" spanning centuries & spanning 
the length and breadth of England.  It was a fairly common name for an 
outlaw.  I'd bet the original source stems from the resistance during 
the first 5 years of William the Conqueror's reign; there was a band 
that held out in the forests & marshes for quite a spell, led by a 
renegade nobleman.  And that was a time when the Normans were busy 
dispossessing the Saxons that had survived Hastings, and the ordinary 
yeomanry to boot.  But no matter how you slice it, Robin of the green 
wood would have been speaking virtually a different language from his 
descendents who colonized America first 4 to 5 centuries later.  As well 
ask for the accent of Beowulf, or Julius Caesar.

If you *still* aren't convinced, look for folks living in Nottingham who 
are country people & whose ancestors have been for centuries.  You might 
consider their speech a faint approximation of that of Robin of 
Sherwood.  That would be, what?, north Midlands?  East of that, perhaps.

FWIW, the usual claim is that Appalachia speaks something approximating 
an Elizabethan accent, not Robin's.  But that really isn't true, 
especially as so many people came to the mountains from Scotland after 
The '45, as I said.  The more recent claim is that the Bay islanders do 
so, and that is much more believable, as the islands were settled mostly 
before 1650, I believe, and stayed pretty isolated during the next 350 
years.  They certainly don't sound like other Marylanders or Virginians.

Snarkhunter