Philip Hart <philiph at slac.stanford.edu> Sent by: dragaera-bounces at dragaera.info 01/30/06 01:30 PM To Dragaera List <dragaera at dragaera.info> cc Subject Re: the honing of Vlad (was Re: How much does Vlad *really* knowabout Kragar?) >On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, Davdi Silverrock wrote: >> Yet why would Marxist ideas be conveyed back however many thousands >> and thousands of years it is supposed to be? > >I assume the cache was a normal-causality occurrence - humankind takes >flight, settles Dragaera, builds libraries, gets stomped by the J; >then eventually a library gets found with its physics and engineering >texts decayed but its ancient history of economic thought texts >miraculously preserved. Then info about the find is sent against >time's arrow into the past. This touches on my original reason for bringing up High-Tech vs Sorcery... And why the Easterners we've seen all seem to be late medieval/early renaissance level of tech--and never seem to have advanced any further. Since it seems likely to me that what happened was that the Easterners had high-tech, then got smacked down. Whether this was by the gods, the Jenoine, the Empire, or "other". (Davdi just did a great speculative write-up on this line of thinking on the wikicity. http://dragaera.wikicities.com/wiki/Speculation:Easterner) >> You mean, like some sort of temporal Cycle? An interesting notion; I >> wonder if it has been thought of before? > >Just referring to Nietzsche's idea of "eternal recurrence", which involves >the exact repetition of all history as the universe is born, dies, and is >reborn; but in this case with slight variation due to some sort of magic. All of this has happened before, and all of it will happen again... Majikjon --Really liking the new Battlestar Galactica series.