Davdi Silverrock wrote: >On 2/5/06, Jon Lincicum <lincicum at comcast.net> wrote: > > >>If Cawti even took notice of Vlad's last name, she probably just assumed >>that he'd picked that name out for himself when his family moved to >>Adrilankha. (Which may, indeed, be what happened. Noish-Pa might have >>thought that was a fitting patronymic for his family when he took the >>wife and kids and moved out west. Especially if Nosih-Pa has been living >>under an assumed name, which I suspect may be the case.) >> >>This brings up the point of Vlads baronetcy. Did it exist before Vlad's >>father bought it? According to the conversation with Paresh in /Teckla/, >>Vlad says it's a "real place with 2 or 3 families living there." >>"Taltos" sure seems like an unusual name for a Dragaeran to give to a >>region, which makes me suspect that the region was named after Vlad (or >>rather, after his father) rather than vice versa. >> >> > >No, no. Noish-pa's name is also Taltos, and he did not buy >citizenship (and Vlad's dad's citizenship does not appear to extend to >parents). I think Vlad uses "Taltos" out of deference/respect for his >Grandfather. I presume the baronetcy that Vlad owns is not used as >part of his name. Although perhaps the baronetcy has been named >Taltos, now that you mention it. > > Well, this is a part of my point, really. Taltos was probably Vlad's family name long before his dad ever bought a title. However, I seem to remember a pair of Phoenix Guards showing up at Vlad's place of business asking for him as the "Baronet of Taltos". (In /Yendi/, I believe, shortly before he gets a beating). This makes me think the "Taltos" Baronetcy is named after Vlad's family. (Which name was probably chosen by Noish-pa. Unless, of course, it happened to be Noish-pa's name back in Fenario. This, to me, seems unlikely, as it's not a very *humble* name for a Fenarian commoner to use within his own country. It would be kind of like someone in this country using the last name :"Christ".) >Note that Vlad never refers to himself as being Count Szurke, either, >although he has the excuse of being on the run for that. > > Well, I don't seem to recall him using *any* patronymic while he's on the run (in /Athyra/ and /Orca/). And, of course, in /Issola/, he hanging out with people who already knew him well from before. Majikjon