> > The obvious answer is that Morrolan's mistaken, but can > anyone come up > with a cleverer reading? > > Claire Clearly, Morollan could be mistaken, though being on a first name basis with both Sethra and Verra would tend to make him better informed on such things than the average Elf. Part of the mystery could be in the nature of the Gods. Becoming a god involves more than a physical alteration. As Lady Teldra has told us in Issola, the Gods are each the embodiment of a concept or symbol. The ascension to deity involves a spiritual and metaphysical transformation. I trust Teldra on this one, more than Morrolan even. Her training would require her to be educated in understanding divine nature in order to properly treat with divinity. Morollan's knowledge of Verra and, indirectly, the other Lords of Judgement, is that of a vassal to a lord. At some point (Yendi?) Vlad rather flippantly tells us that the creation of the Lesser Sea resulted in a big bang and a "few new gods". If the trauma of the event could spontaneously turn Dragaerans into gods, it could conceivably do the same to Jenoine. We could take Verra's words to heart at this point: "I was never human, but if I had been, I wouldn't be now." The same would apply to any Jenoine who ascended along with Verra and her friends. An "ascended Jenoine" would no longer be a Jenoine. Given that, the motivations of these new Jenonine-Gods would probably be rather different from that of their "normal" fellows. Moreover, the Gods may not even have "free will" as we understand it. If each embodies a symbol, then that symbol will rule their nature forever after. According to Teldra, Verra "represents the random arbitrariness of life". This may mean that Verra is not just precocious compared to the other Gods because she likes to be. It may mean that she's incapable of behaving in any other fashion. Now, in the same passage Teldra also points out that Verra's home appears anything but arbitrary so that one should probably take such musings with a grain of salt. For our purposes, though, it's sufficient to realize that a Jenoine ascended to Godhood would be something rather different than what she/he/it began life as, and thus might well have an altered viewpoint on whether the Jenoine Incursion ought to be aided or opposed. It's also worth pointing out that when Sethra speaks of the Jenoine in _Issola_, she says "No, I fear what we are facing is rather more powerful than a god." This is punctuated by the final battle in which several gods face off with a couple of Jenoine and it still takes the arrival of Godslayer and the intervention of Adron (or his consciousness anyway) to turn the tide. An ascended Jenoine might actually have something to fear from his former comrades. It may not be a condition that a Jenoine would normally aspire to. In any case, "destroyed" in this case may not be the same as "wiped out of existence". As long as the ascended Jenoine became Gods and allied with the other Gods, then Sethra would be essentially correct in saying that all of the Jenoine were destroyed. The handful that ascended weren't really Jenoine any more.