Wasn't the trellanstone destroyed by Vlad in that crazy amorphia hissy cow? They did discover what was preventing them from leaving- the trellanstone- and then they were able to leave after Vlad went crazy- I always assumed it got blowed up real good, as my neighbor would say. They might have simply teleported it away, but I think they would have rather let it stay and have a chance to off Verra once and for all rather than lose some trellanstone, which, conceivably, could be obtained again. On 4/8/06, Philip Hart <philiph at slac.stanford.edu> wrote: > > > > On Sat, 8 Apr 2006, Maximilian Wilson wrote: > > > Philip wrote: > > > Note that the J were able to make a river of amorphia elsewhere, to > > > Sethra's great astonishment, so she may be overrepresenting her > > > understanding of the issue to Vlad. And Vlad was able (I think) > > > to produce amorphia there as well. Maybe Dragaera isn't so special > > > in this sense. > > > > My impression is that Dragaera is special not so much for being the > > only place where amorphia can be *created* as for being the only place > > where a known, stable source exists. Remember Sethra's comments about > > the biggest fluke of all, that the GS (and the LS later on) failed to > > consume the entire world. The Jenoine didn't make their amorphia (it > > was siphoned off from the LS) but Vlad certainly did make some there, > > as you mentioned. > > > > On the other hand, since amorphia appears to convert other matter into > > amorphia, I've wondered why cutting the link to the LS is likely to > > inconvenience the Jenoine in any way except for undercutting their > > plans to take over the Orb. > > > Yes -the J have a river of amorphia and a hunk of trellanstone - I don't > see why they can't make their own orb and maintain their own sea and just > ignore Dragaera (or find more trellanstone and make more orbs and seas > and then blow away the Empire/gods by brute force) - esp since they have > been doing something similar already. The only out I can think of at the > moment is that there's something special about the human (Serioli?) > phenotype/soulotype that clicks with amorphia and the J aren't willing or > able to modify themselves to do the same, and too dumb or something to > just kidnap some e'Kierons and breed them and use them as proxies against > the gods. > > Dunno. >