On Sat, 24 Aug 2002, Sunny Han wrote: > Are there such things as practicing witches? I've heard all of the arguments > from scientists about how it's physically impossibile to make things happen > based strictly on desire. Are there any arguments fro it? I've read a book > "A Plague of Sorcerers" by a Mrs. Zambreno, Mary Frances, and I think that > defines my look on witchcraft... Yes, there is such a thing. I am one *g* And so's my primary, sort of. I'm Wiccan, he's not, but we both practice magic. Yeah, a lot of the things the media says witches do is BS and most likely can't happen, but there are some things that are true. I think the best explanation is how my primary goes into it. He doesn't believe in deities or external forces, except as vehicles to help one focus. He believes in magic as a force for internal change. Like when one does a spell to, say, get a job; he doesn't believe it causes anything to happen to the hiring manager, but it kind of instructs all parts of one's self to do the right things in obtaining a job. Or love spells. I even say the same about telepathy, etc. Telepathy and empathy are very much based on observational skills and data-extraction, for me. I've never gotten a clear message in my head from someone, but I have on occasion known what they were going to say, based on what I knew of them. And I've been able to intuit emotions that might have been hidden, based on body language and other things. I am, by no means, saying that there is nothing mystical or magickal out there, just that this is where my beliefs and practices stand now. I do agree that I have a hard time seeing people making things happen to outside forces by desire alone, but there are subtleties that haven't been really grasped yet, especially about how a slight modification to a person's behavior and/or attitude can cause another person's decision or what-have-you to change. But I do agree that we can't MAKE someone else do something we want, just like that, without doing something to ourselves. I have a rather large library of fairly good books on the subject, so if anyone wants recommendations, not a problem. ****** NyteMuse "Call her life unnatural, feel her undead breath. Color her black for sorcery, color her gray for death." AIM: NyteMuse139 / ICQ: #21966269 (NyteMuse) MSN: NyteMuse / Yahoo!ID: NyteMuse http://www.crowfire.com