David Dyer-Bennet writes: Religion, by definition, asserts the existence of a non-material world. There's no evidence for such a thing being real. Of course it isn't real. Otherwise, it wouldn't be non-material. This is the main problem with trying to prove the existence or non-existence of God; he isn't "real" in a physical sense. And yet, the fact that people believe in God proves he does exist, just as the people who do not believe in God prove that he doesn't. It's very quantum. rone -- New from the makers of Li'l Swimmers: Li'l Eaters. Edible underwear that looks just like Mommy's and Daddy's! - Kibo