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The Great Debate....to DDB

David Dyer-Bennet dd-b at dd-b.net
Sat Nov 30 09:52:22 PST 2002

rone at ennui.org (definitely what) writes:

> David Dyer-Bennet writes:
>   On the other hand, if people do the same thing repeatedly for an
>   extended span of time, and the people and hierarchy of the religion
>   condone or support the action, it seems fair to actually blame the
>   religion -- even if there are readings of their scripture that deny
>   the action.  Seeking out and burning heretics, for example; that was
>   done widely enough, for long enough, with broad enough support, that I
>   think it's quite fair to blame Chrstianity for it.
> 
> It's quite fair to blame the Christian hierarchy of the time for it.
> To put the fault of those actions on "Christianity" is specious; what
> is "Christianity"?  The current batch of cardinals + Pope in the
> Vatican?  All current Christians?  What about events that occurred
> before religious schisms?  Are Protestants to be blamed for events
> perpetrated by the Catholic Church before Martin Luther published the
> 95 Theses?

Looks like you're trying to construct a scenario where *nothing* could
*ever* be blamed on the religion itself.  I find that an unacceptable
outcome -- there must be at least a theoretical possibility.

> Frankly, all you're showing here is prejudice, which you justify by
> saying, hey, i've had religion thrown in my face for almost 50 years,
> so it's OK for me to lower myself to their level.  And i think you
> should be above that sort of stuff, as the "thinking" sort of fellow
> you claim to be.

Thank you for your thoughtful and perceptive input on this issue.
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