Spoiler space removed for ease of reading. Potential spoilers removed as we seem to have morphed the conversation. On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 10:44:46AM -0500, Jag wrote: > What I remember from reading Issola is that the Great Weapons were more or > less designed by the Jenoine in order to be able to kill the Gods, but > they also have the effect of being able to kill the Jenoine. So, > theoretically, any Great Weapon, can kill a God or Jenoine There is a Vlad novel where we are told that morganti weapons were created by the Seroli in order to end all wars. Vlad thinks this is a stupid idea, and it is pointed out to him that it worked... for them. My recollection is that this is a conversation with Kragar, and I suspect from context it's _Dragon_, but I'm not sure. I think it's possible that the Seroli created the GW because the Jenoine wanted/demanded them, but this is not an area that I'm aware that Steve has expanded on. I also think it's possible that the reason they work on both gods and Jenoine is because, like Vlad, the Seroli are good at irony. :) -Jot -- Jot Powers <books at bofh.com> http://www.bofh.com/books/ "I'm upping my standards, so up yours!" -Pat Paulsen (1927-1997), Presidential Campaign Slogan