On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 05:38:50PM -0500, Michele Riccio wrote: > On 21 Feb 2003 at 16:32, Steve Simmons wrote > > [ my argument elided ] > How was Vlad pushed? > [ Michele's argument elided ] There's a big difference between 'pushed' and 'controlled in microscopic detail.' Just as an example, if Sethra wanted Vlad to have talents in witchcraft all she had to do was ensure Noish-pa's survival and make Dragaerans appear at their worst to Vlad. The former provides a mechanism for him to learn, the latter a drive for him to get out of the resturaunt and distance him from his father. Keira can accomplish the first by quietly letting it be known on the street that "Noish-pa is OK by me, and anybody who screws with him will make a enemy". Keira can accomplish the second by meeting with the worst of her business partners in the resturant. Push, but not micromanage.