OK, I went and found the exact reference to Zungaron. It's on page 41 of the hard cover of _Issola_. In my judgment, this doesn't really constitute any sort of spoilers, but I'll put in a little space just in case there's someone whose judgement doesn't accord with mine. This is Vlad speaking with Sethra Lavode. "I nodded. 'The Great Weapons were created to destroy the gods, but now they're being used to defend the gods. Cute.' 'Yes. We who carry the Great Weapons are the appointed of the gods -- even those of us who, like Zungaron --' 'Who?' 'Never mind. Even those of us who have one only by accident and have not the least clue what it is for, or what to do with it. If we defy the gods, by intention or accident, we are likely to find life difficult. And yet, we are the only humans whom the gods have reason to fear, and to hate.'" -- David Goldfarb <*>|"You realize you're insane, don't you?" goldfarb at ocf.berkeley.edu | "*hahahaha*. Don't change the subject." goldfarb at csua.berkeley.edu | -- _Zot!_ #3