I would say that wizard staves are less than Artifacts, generally. I would imagine that Morrolon and Sethra, for instance, might have staves that could qualify as Artifacts, but generally, I would think that every wizard on the block isn't capable of creating an Artifact. Now, I would define Artifact (with capital A) as something that transends the creator in some way. Either they last forever (or a Really Long Time), they are "ultimately" powerful (the orb), they are Unique and useful to many people, that sort of thing. A wizard's staff, while often powerful, doesn't /generally/ matter beyond that particular wizard who created it. The Orb and the Great Weapons have been a part of history, to some extent regardless of their users. Kisc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iain E. Davis" <feaelin at kemenel.org> To: <dragaera at dragaera.info> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:51 AM Subject: RE: Morganti -----Original Message----- > From: Derrill 'Kisc' Guilbert [mailto:kisc at insaneninjahero.com] > Great non-Weapons is also a fascinating question. It seems > like there are any number of things that could qualify as > Artifacts, but how are they going to get a soul, if they > don't have any Morganti essense to suck one in with? They obtain it another way, or have it inherently. The Orb is an example of getting energy another way...it is clearly an Artifact (if you use the term to be a powerful tool (magical or otherwise) with a wide variety of powers)...it draws power from the Great Sea of Chaos, has a wide array of abilities/features, and is definitely unique. I received the impression that wizards use staves or wands. It would not be surprising to find out the are Artifacts in that category, possibly created by the best Athyra wizards. I'd expect them to be rare, and probably either prized and carefully guarded by their creator or current owner (presumably, themselves an Athyra wizard). Iain