Gametech writes: I just had an absurd notion as you may figure from the subject line. You see I have never seen a Dragaeran aside from my minds eye, which can deceive me sometimes. I happened upon the notion of what it would look like to see an Easterner like Vlad trying to punch a Dragaeran in the face. The closest facsimile I can come up with is a 13-year-old kid lunging up to hit an adult sized person. What's even trickier is the way that Vlad managed to bury a dagger in that guy's head at the end of Orca. I wonder if he was wearing his Elton John shoes at the time. rone -- "Alan Alda's all we are." - Kurt Cobain