On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 FRIEDA2133 at aol.com wrote: #Could Sethra of the e'Lanya Dragon line? On Thursday, 9 Sep 2004 -- Mark A. Mandel http://cracksandshards.com a Steven Brust Dragaera fan website wrote #No. Sethra is older than the Empire. Hi, Spoiler below if you have not already read Jhereg and Issola. Wild speculation below too. I'm speculating that the e'Lanya Dragon line is older then the Empire and older than Sethra even if no one put the e'Lanya part after their name. Possible if you engage in wild speculation based on some of Vlad's fever dreams in Athyra, Vlad's reaction to a painting in Dragon and the word plow in Brokedown Palace and Athyra. Did Verra and her friends capture only one dragon for the Jen or did they capture several? What if genetic memory is one of pieces taken from that dragon and given to the Dragaerans. What if Vlad's soul has the genetic memory of that dragon. What if Kieron the Conqueror was named after Kieron the dragon(animal) the Jen took genes from or maybe the first Easterner/Dragaeran from those experiments? What if there was a Kieron the dragon and a Drien the dragon and a Lanya the dragon and a Marish'Chala the dragon. Or maybe the first group of Easterners/Dragaeran were Kieron, Drien, Lanya and Marish'Chala and whoever. And maybe Sethra is descended from the original Lanya. "e'Lanya blood" "grasp of tactics is without fail." The Phoenix Guards page 131 Heh. Bye. Linda G.