> Other than the instinct to survive, just what IS "human nature?" We can view human nature as either some kind of observable behavior or predictable behavior, or as some kind of design (not necessarily deliberate, so no one assume I'm a deist). On the behavioral side, you have things like survival instinct, nurturing young, eating, excreting, sex; all things that can be reliably predicted of human beings or observed in them throughout their lives. Most of these, I think, lack any kind of explicitly "human" descriptors. In these respects human nature is just nature nature. Where humans get interesting, I think, is on the design side, and how that design contributes to behavior in a way that is human, even though the behaviors themselves might fail to pass any kind of exclusivity test. It's not simply a matter of saying "humans are more intelligent than other creatures", since that statement wolud provide a characteristic without providing any behavioral consequences. Nor is it interesting to say "humans have unique DNA", since that does not give us any behavioral consequences either. The way humans are designed (which just means "most consistently structured" as I'm using it) is to have way way way more neurons than anything other thing. I've had it described as the approximately the number of pixels you would get if you covered the Two Towers (WTC) with television screens. Well, so what? Isn't that just another way of saying "humans are smarter"? Isn't that uninterstingly vague and lacking in behavioral descriptions? No. All human behavior is an output of a process that starts with some input (sensory stimulus or mental stimulus) that activates neurons in some pattern, which pattern then produces an output pattern. So, an input pattern on the optic cells (say, the "sight" of a chair) produces a complicated neuronal pattern that eventually leads to output patterns (like "I can sit in the chair", or even other, non-normative outputs like "there's a chair"). The difference in the number of neurons between human beings and other things means there is an exponential difference in the number of "patterns" the human brain can be trained to activate given certain stimuli, which means that there is an increased number of output options available to the human brain as well ("trained" is a loose term that can be used to describe a lot of techniques for "tuning" the neuronal pathways to produce certain patterns rather than others). Human nature, then, is to be exponentially more varied, and more potentially unpredictable, than any other creature (with fewer neurons; so I guess I can't exclude Dragaerans, or Serioli, or Jenoine, since I don't know how many neurons they have by comparision). Society contributes a lot of inputs, and contributes to the training of the network, so that human beings acquire regular behaviors that are observable and predictable, but it is the design of the brain that allows that training to happen. Given other inputs, humans could behave completely differently than we can imagine, and with more possibility of variety than creatures with fewer neurons and so fewer possible patterns of neuronal response to stimuli. Human nature is possibility. Other kinds of nature are possibility too, but humans are *more* possibility. :} Shawn