Dragaera

Defender always wins? (Was: Re: on contradictions and such)

Tue Feb 8 14:25:14 PST 2005

On Feb 8, 2005, at 2:14 AM, Tsarren wrote:

>
> Anyone on the list study aikido or something similar?  For those who 
> don't,
> aikido is based around the idea that you can use your attacker's energy
> (resources, whatever) against them instead of initiating your own 
> attacks.
> A question I asked my sensei once when we were studying katana 
> technique
> (one of the roots of aikido is how to survive in battlefield chaos when
> you've lost your sword for some reason) was, "assuming two opponents of
> equal skill, is there ever an adavantage to attacking first?"
>
> Anyone care to discuss the question, on any scale?
>
> Kat
>
>

I was an aikidoka for awhile.  This is one of those questions that 
generates lovely (and often vigorous) discussions.  I'll take a crack 
at it anyway.

Attacker (uke) has initiative.  If he can properly utilize it a bout 
can often be won right there.  However, defense (nage) is generally 
considered to be the stronger position.  Once uke commits to an attack 
he necessarily exposes certain targets which nage can then, in his 
turn, address.

I've often compared a bout to a tennis match in that the winner is 
usually the one who makes fewer mistakes.  I seem to recall Sethra 
saying something like this at one point (ISSOLA?).

One of the things that initially drew me to aikido was a diagram I saw 
in the Westbrook & Ratti text (AIKIDO & THE DYNAMIC SPHERE) concerning 
the four ethical levels of combat.  Terrific concept!