>Well, yes, I shan't deny the validity of that. I was trying to avoid being >simply contrary and asking "Where is the textex that Zerika I was a Reborn >Phoenix?" There isn't any, making the question moot because it leaves the >discussion in the exact state it was in previously. I'm not sure that's true. We know Paarfi wrote Viscount of Adrilanka during Norathar's reign. Ergo the cycle turned. We have to have a reborn Phoenix before that. Zerika reigns at least 309 years (see preface? of The Phoenix Guards) Plus 179 years of Norathar's reign. And Paarfi is still writing, I'm not saying there can't have been another ruler in between, but strikes me as unlikely. Cheers Mark